Thunderbird 03 Oct 2007 10:52 pm
My Last Day at the Mozilla Corporation
I wanted to let the Thunderbird community know that Friday October 12th will be my last day as an employee of the Mozilla Corporation. I plan to continue on, as a volunteer, with my role as a module owner for the Thunderbird project.
I wish the Mozilla Corporation and the new Thunderbird Mail Corporation luck in their future endeavors.
I’ll be posting here with more information about my future plans when they are ready!
on 04 Oct 2007 at 12:25 am 1.Gary Kwong said …
Thank you for all that you have done for Thunderbird. It was great working with you, not easy for all of us at times, but still a wonderful process nonetheless.
I wish you all the best for your future endeavours as well, and may we have the chance to work together again in the future, be it as volunteers or in other roles in the community.
Best regards,
Gary
on 04 Oct 2007 at 1:15 am 2.Jon Pritchard said …
Really sad news Scott, I hope you’re moving on to new and enjoyable things and think it’s great you’ll still be involved in the project. I’d just like to thank-you personally for being a real driving force in getting each Thunderbird release out and packed with new features. Best of luck Scott.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 1:24 am 3.Adam Hauner said …
Ooops.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 2:14 am 4.Henrik Gemal said …
Hi Scott
Very sad to hear that you’re leaving Mozilla.
Any chance that you can write something about the reason for leaving MoCo?
on 04 Oct 2007 at 2:31 am 5.Christophe Brocas said …
I do not know if it is a good news for you but it is a sad news for Thunderbird individual users and even more sad for corporations and administrations that now rely on thunderbird product.
Difficult to understand such a leaving at the moment ThCo is created …
Thank you for your commitment and your work (Yes, I see you are going on as module owner but …) all over the years
on 04 Oct 2007 at 3:01 am 6.Ludovic Hirlimann said …
> Any chance that you can write something about the reason for leaving MoCo?
Ditto …
on 04 Oct 2007 at 3:20 am 7.Toni Hermoso said …
Hi Scott!
It’s a shock for me, and I suppose for other somewhat “outer spectators” as well, that you do not seem to take part in new Thunderbird Mail Corporation.
Good luck in your future projects and thanks for continuing to make possible an application such as Thunderbird.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 3:21 am 8.Aurealiano Buendìa said …
Hi Scott,
why?
The thunderbird project is death?
on 04 Oct 2007 at 3:42 am 9.Flotsam said …
Scott,
Good luck in the future. Thunderbird is an excellent application and has never let me down since the first alpha release. I just hope you’re not being screwed over by mozilla.borg, er, mozilla.com.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 3:48 am 10.Žiga Sancin said …
Well, this blog post is the saddest birthday present I’ve ever got.
Is David also leaving Mozilla?
Kill the Inc.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 5:23 am 11.Bibbl said …
HAHA…
All hail Seamonkey
on 04 Oct 2007 at 5:50 am 12.anonymous said …
Great news! As Thunderbird doesn’t move on featurewise, it’s a good step if some of the leading people leave a team.
There are many features needed (for example ldap writing, more contact field like birthdays…) and for years, nothing happens…
on 04 Oct 2007 at 6:04 am 13.Mark T said …
Thank you for all your work on thunderbird all the years!
on 04 Oct 2007 at 6:16 am 14.Wayne Woods said …
Wow, Scott, I’m terribly sorry to hear that
For the little I’ve had to do with the project so far, I’ve found you and David to be the most helpful, friendly and, most importantly, responsive people I’ve dealt with at Moz. I’m glad to hear you’ll still be around as a volunteer, at least, and I hope your future career gives you enough spare time to keep the module going strongly 
on 04 Oct 2007 at 7:14 am 15.Steven Kopischke said …
Bye, Scott.
Thank you for all your efforts. You will be missed.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 7:33 am 16.RAF said …
Damn! I hate to see you go.
Good luck with whatever it is that you will be doing.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 7:54 am 17.Dimas said …
Thx to make possible my favourite mail reader
on 04 Oct 2007 at 7:56 am 18.user said …
Thank you for all your work on Thunderbird
on 04 Oct 2007 at 7:59 am 19.Daifne said …
I am so sad to hear this. You have done a wonderful job on Thunderbird and keeping us up to date in the Mozillazine forums. I hope you will still stop in from time to time.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 8:34 am 20.Robert Strong said …
After your recent haircut I must say that I’m not surprised.
Seriously dude, you will be missed.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 10:27 am 21.Klint said …
Yes, that is a sad news ! But the fact that you will stay close to the project anyway is a better news.
Thanks a lot for all the work you’ve done so far !
on 04 Oct 2007 at 11:01 am 22.Preed said …
Hey Scott,
I think at the beginning, while I was still settling in and before we really knew each other, I was a little stressed out about trying to get Tbird out the door, since it was a stretch after doing a Firefox release, and it always came after an Fx release. Buuuut… I soon got the groove down… and it was always a pleasure working on Thunderbird releases with you. You’ve done a great job of leading the Thunderbird community, and I’m glad to see you’re still going to be a part of the Mozilla project.
I’ll miss working with you all those late nights on Thunderbird releases.
“Thunderbirds are go.”
on 04 Oct 2007 at 11:47 am 23.David Tenser said …
Scott,
THANK YOU for all you’ve done for Mozilla and Thunderbird over the years, and for being such a nice person. You are one of the people that I really connected with back when Thunderbird was still called Minotaur and I enjoyed collaborating with you. Stay in touch!
David
on 04 Oct 2007 at 12:22 pm 24.Chase said …
Scott,
Thanks for your hard work leading the Thunderbird effort. I’ve used Tb since mid-2004 and always thought it was the best mail client out there. Thanks also for your help while I was at Mozilla. Your showing me the ropes was really invaluable to me.
Best of luck in your next endeavor!
Chase
on 04 Oct 2007 at 12:27 pm 25.Freud said …
Reclaim your Inbox
on 04 Oct 2007 at 12:35 pm 26.Olive said …
wtf? if someone on earth is qualified to lead a tb mail corporation it’s definitely you! best of luck mscott.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 12:43 pm 27.Pierre said …
You started this blog 2 months ago with a message calling for a separate independent company dedicated to Thunderbird - and now, apparently just as you obtain what you want [*], you’re leaving?
[*] http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitchell/archives/2007/09/mozillas_new_focus_on_thunderb.html
Maybe MailCo as a MoFo subsidiary wasn’t independent enough for you? After all, you and David certainly deserve ownership of something more tangible than a source code module that has largely been your brainchild for the past 12 years. My guess is that the two of you are soon going to announce the creation of your own company working on the Mozilla code base. You’d be a bit stupid not to
Regardless, I wish you the best… and thanks for all the work.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 12:59 pm 28.marcia said …
scott: thanks for all your hard work on Thunderbird. I enjoy both testing it and using it, and I really enjoyed writing a book about it. I don’t know if a lot of folks truly understand the complexities of mail (both the code and the use), and bravo to you for taking on the challenge. We will miss you around the office.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 1:14 pm 29.Sebastian said …
It would be interesting to know what the reason for leaving is. Given that you didn’t provide a reason, it sounds like you left because of MailCo. I think that’s sad. MailCo could lead Thunderbird out of its current dilemma.
Btw: Ever thought of changing the name of Thunderbird back to Minotaur? Sometimes I think back to the good old times
(No, don’t misunderstand me - I’m happy that Mozilla is in such a great shape!)
on 04 Oct 2007 at 1:21 pm 30.Magnus Melin said …
Sad news indeed:(
Good luck with your future plans, whatever they are!
on 04 Oct 2007 at 1:45 pm 31.Pavel "JasnaPaka" Cvrcek said …
Scott, I want to thank you for all your work on Thunderbird. Good luck with your next activities.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 2:10 pm 32.Tomcat said …
i agree with preed:
I’ll miss working with you all those late nights on Thunderbird releases.
Was fun
on 04 Oct 2007 at 2:37 pm 33.Amsterdammer said …
Many thanks for given us (together with David 1) this Thunderbird we all have, the best email client I ever had.
Congratulation to do this courageous step to leave Mozilla Corporation now, IMHO that’s the only thing you can do in this thunderstormy times. Now u are free and independent!
Thanks for continue as a module owner!
on 04 Oct 2007 at 3:33 pm 34.Johannes said …
thank you for your work on this great software!
on 04 Oct 2007 at 3:38 pm 35.Xing said …
That’s open-source. You always get what you pay for. Nothing! Good luck if you should rely on open-source. If the developers are bored and leave for whatever reason you are f*cked to death.
I never understood why open-source is so hooray’d.
Xing
P.S.: No personal offense at all. I appreciate Scott’s work and respect his decision. It’s just that it reminds me about all the flaws of oss.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 3:44 pm 36.average joe said …
The reason for leaving is because no matter how much money you throw at something that is and will always be less popular than the flagship product (firefox), is that the suits will still tell you how things *should* be instead of *how they really are*
But this is not bad, maybe they can focus more on the few problems that firefox has
on 04 Oct 2007 at 5:03 pm 37.Shawn Wilsher said …
Scott,
Best of wishes to you and your future endeavors. I enjoyed working with you over the summer.
Cheers,
Shawn
on 04 Oct 2007 at 5:16 pm 38.The Guru said …
Good luck with your future plans. You have made a major difference in the e-mail client ‘market’ with the development of Thunderbird. Best wishes.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 6:03 pm 39.Mike Cantelon said …
Scott: Congrats on making the decision you no doubt had to make. Good luck and thanks for your outstanding contribution to the community.
Xing: You have it completely backwards. When lead programmers leave closed source companies, because of boredom or conflicts with the company, there are significantly less people who know the codebase than with open source projects. Hence the “open” in open source. Try again.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 8:06 pm 40.David said …
Thanks for your hard work over the years, Scott. Thunderbird has become a fine application in no small part because of your involvement.
on 04 Oct 2007 at 10:51 pm 41.Sailfish said …
Hello Scott, thanks for all the hard work put into making the already good suite mail component into a first class, feature-rich standalone mail client.
All the best in your new ventures.
Godspeed,
Patrick
on 04 Oct 2007 at 11:52 pm 42.Patrick Brunschwig said …
I’m sorry to hear you’re leaving. Thanks for all the good and hard work. Thunderbird would not be flying without your involvement.
on 05 Oct 2007 at 12:41 am 43.Ben Goodger said …
Best of luck Scott. You are a great engineer, project leader and an awesome friend. Leslie and I send our best wishes for your future endeavors, and let us know in any way we can help.
on 05 Oct 2007 at 1:15 am 44.Günter said …
Thank you for the good .
on 05 Oct 2007 at 6:38 am 45.Kurt (supernova_00) said …
Scott, damn dude Thunderbird is going to go to hell now that you are gone or at least David is going to be very overwhelmed with work. You especially basically created TB and know every in and out of its codebase. I loved how you still to this day check in on mozillazine, post comments and file bugs yourself and help out with narrowing down regressions and finding band aids until you’d create a patch. I’ve used TB ever since I can remember there being a thunderbird and have seen it come a long way thanks to you. Best of luck to you in the future!
BTW thanks again for the T-shirt from about two years ago for the daily threads and other stuff I tried to help out with.
on 05 Oct 2007 at 12:25 pm 46.Samuel Sidler said …
Scott, it’s been great working with you over the past few months. I hope to work with you in the future in whatever endeavors you’re a part of. You will be missed.
on 05 Oct 2007 at 3:06 pm 47.skierpage said …
Thunderbird holds my life. Through the seamless upgrades from Netscape 3.0 Gold and the first M3 Mozilla release, migrations across five computers and three architectures, plus the import of work mail from Eudora, Mac Mail, and Outlook/Exchange.
Thunderbird 2 is the latest and *by far* the best iteration. THANK YOU!!!
on 05 Oct 2007 at 6:24 pm 48.hansen said …
I’ve been following you and Bienvenu since the Minotaur-days. And enjoyed every nightly build ever since. Thank you!
You’ve managed to please millions of people with the overall look of the project and Bienvenu has probably created the best IMAP-client out there.
Really hope someone will tell us about this move.
Just read, that Bienvenu is leaving too!
http://blog.mozilla.com/bienvenu/2007/10/05/movin-on/
May you both have success in the future. I will be following you steps…
on 05 Oct 2007 at 8:14 pm 49.GS! said …
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Well, I am glad there is Thunderbird, but it’s really sad you are leaving. Thanks for all the help, and I wish you good luck on future endevors (I wish this spell check worked).
on 06 Oct 2007 at 12:17 am 50.Alex said …
This is a sad day in the history of Thunderbird Mozilla actually. You will be missed thank you for all your work and i wish you the best of luck in your years to come
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on 06 Oct 2007 at 9:17 am 52.JoeS said …
Scott,
Thanks for your commitment to the existing TB user. I’m confident the reasons for your leaving are based on that loyalty.
The “New Mail Initiative” will be able to distort
your creation however it wants, but there will only
be ONE Thunderbird.
If your plans happen to include a “Fork” in the
code, I’m all for it, and willing to help as much as I can.
JoeS
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on 07 Oct 2007 at 2:11 am 54.wintogreen said …
Scott, thank you very much for everything you’ve put into T’bird and giving us a terrific email client. Very best of luck to you in your future endeavors.
on 07 Oct 2007 at 11:22 am 55.Smokey Ardisson said …
Scott, all of my interactions with you have been overwhelmingly positive, and you’ve always struck me as one of the nicest people in the Mozilla world. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours!
on 08 Oct 2007 at 3:28 am 56.cyruss said …
Too bad ! Thunderbird is my best friend and I don’t want him to be without father !!!
Anyway thx a lot from a french thunderbird user. It s a great product !
on 08 Oct 2007 at 5:35 am 57.Gren said …
Thunderbird is an excellent and elegant product.
Thanks for making my day to day life easier and all the best for the future. I Really hope that Thunderbird’s future is still bright.
on 08 Oct 2007 at 6:32 am 58.Sherm said …
Scott, Thank you for all you have done.
Sherm
on 08 Oct 2007 at 6:37 am 59.Conan said …
Thank you for your work
on 08 Oct 2007 at 8:10 am 60.Michael Perry said …
Scott, many thanks for the great email client and online presence. I’ve enjoyed watching the client mature and become “the” client. I don’t keep up with all the changes around Mozilla and really had not heard about the new mail company until I read your weblog here. I’d like your perspective on what the challenges are around building a mail client that encompasses what Thunderbird has. Seems there are almost cosmic meeting points of community, users, developers, documentarians.
It’d be interesting to read your ruminations on what the most challenging moments were, if you always saw thunderbird being as it is now, and what you see the future being for email clients. Given that I unfortunately must use another client at work due to work issues, I normally cannot wait to get home to do my home and other mail from thunderbird.
If nothing else, thanks a lot for everything around the mail client. I appreciate the time, resources, energy spent on this.
on 08 Oct 2007 at 8:22 am 61.sylvain said …
I’ve been using thunderbird for years now and I discover you exist the day you leave! Thanks for all, I hope you’ll be able to have fun in your future projects (may it be a mail client or anything else ;).
on 08 Oct 2007 at 8:56 am 62.Howard said …
Scott,
thanks for one of the best IMAP mail clients!
Best of luck on your future endeavors and sorry to hear you’re leaving Mozilla.
Best of luck!
on 08 Oct 2007 at 10:25 am 63.Kevin Gerich said …
Hey Scott, best of luck to you. Thanks for everything you’ve done for Thunderbird and thanks for taking the time to help me contribute when I barely knew what CVS was
Kevin
on 08 Oct 2007 at 1:28 pm 64.Tom said …
Scott, you are already a hero of millions who are happy with your life work - Thunderbird. Thanks to you, David and the community of developers and supporters !
But now be brave and do not abandon this project just because of $- or G-minded yappies. Fight further on with David and community and establish new open source trunk of Thunderbird. Lesson with Netscape few years ago was very similar case, it seems as history repeats once again. At that time you were trying to show non-Microsoft approach, now you can add non-Google approach. I believe most of us have clear vision what mailer should look like and also what not. In these days of thousands messages + spam + ads, we need fast, simple and powerful tool, which will enable us to be more productive and organized, not just reading and sorting emails all the day.
So be a hero once again, you have a huge community of first class users behind !
Good luck !
Tom
on 08 Oct 2007 at 2:48 pm 65.Alex J. Tanner said …
Thanks scott, can I interview you about some of Mozilla’s recent desisions like moving focas away from thunderbird and sunbird to firefox?
Anyone else want to chime in on my show witch I am bringing back drop me an email at: alex@slightlyunstable.org
Note: I use and will always use thunderbird.
on 08 Oct 2007 at 8:09 pm 66.Jason Divchev said …
Thank you for all that you have done for this excellent application.
Millions of users now rely on Thunderbird.
Hope you will stay with open source forever
Best of luck in your future projects!
Best regards,
Jason
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on 08 Oct 2007 at 10:25 pm 68.^DarkSide^ said …
Sad to hear you’re leaving, although I’m glad you’re still going to be involved as a module owner for TB. We deployed TB across our entire organization and absolutely love it. We hope you continue with all the great work you’ve done so far. Best of luck on all your future endeavors. You rock!
on 08 Oct 2007 at 10:40 pm 69.Ayub said …
Huh?
You are leaving!!
I don’t wanna ask you why because no one else can judge the situation better than you in which you are!
Your inputs in thunderbird project will be remembered. I am anxious to see your next project. Wish you all the best!
on 09 Oct 2007 at 2:48 am 70.Jay said …
Hey Scott,
Thanks for everything you have done to make Thunderbird what it is today. I have enjoyed using it, testing it, and driving the many releases we have worked on together. You will missed and I wish you all the best on your new journey… where ever it takes you.
- Jay
on 09 Oct 2007 at 8:49 am 71.Lion7718 said …
Sorry to hear about you leaving..
I fear that with the creation of MailCo, Thunderbird will be laid to rest..but, I really hope it continues & has a future.
Good Luck in your future endeavors.
on 09 Oct 2007 at 8:59 pm 72.CatThief said …
I wish you the very best for the future, and thank you from the bottom of my heart for making Thunderbird the success that it is today. You will be missed.
Good luck!
Cat
on 11 Mar 2008 at 9:55 pm 73.Daniel said …
I couldn’t understand some parts of this article My Last Day at the Mozilla Corporation, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.
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